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remoo1
Unread post  Post subject: Oxygen saturation  |  Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:44 am

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Hello fellow PAPers,
I recently started using an oxygen monitor ring that transfers results to your phone. With PAP I average 95% over 6 to 8 hours. The last couple nights I woke up after 4 to 5 hours and took mask off because I couldn't go back to sleep. I slept 2 to 3 hours more and averaged 93% with one 30 second drop to 89%.
I am wondering how much PAP therapy is benefiting me. I have lost 20 pounds since I started therapy and am questioning if I still need to continue using the machine?


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LSAT
Unread post  Post subject: Re: Oxygen saturation  |  Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:55 am

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The pap therapy only benefits you while you are using it. Using a CPAP does not cure sleep apnea. The CPAP does not supply oxygen...it keeps you breathing. What is your average AHI? Your breathing is what supplies the oxygen. If you think your SA is "cured", you need an overnight sleep study to determine that.


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remoo1
Unread post  Post subject: Re: Oxygen saturation  |  Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:33 am

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Average ahi over 6 months 2.6. All I was saying is I don't see much difference in oxygen levels with/without CPAP


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Pugsy
Unread post  Post subject: Re: Oxygen saturation  |  Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:59 am
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There's more to sleep apnea than just oxygen level drops.

There's sleep disturbances as well. Have very many sleep disturbances even without significant oxygen level drops and you will feel like crap.

Some people have significant drops...some people don't but the sleep disturbances themselves affect sleep quality and thus how we feel during the day.

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remoo1
Unread post  Post subject: Re: Oxygen saturation  |  Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:52 am

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I'm using the bleep too. Was there a learning curve for you to get the ports clicked in?


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Pugsy
Unread post  Post subject: Re: Oxygen saturation  |  Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:32 pm
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Yes, a bit of a learning curve with the Bleep.
What I did was attach them and then put the palm of my hand over the end of the hose and try to breathe. Leaks at the attachment were more easily discovered doing it that way. If I couldn't move air...no leaks and if I could then I would know I needed to re do the ports to the hose/frame.

I can now do it without needing the mirror and it all takes about 10 seconds after the skin prep is done. But at first...lots of time needed.

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remoo1
Unread post  Post subject: Re: Oxygen saturation  |  Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:14 am

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No more leak worries when you get it right! And with no mask to disturb it's a lot easier for me to move to get comfortable.

I'm still using mirror after 3 months but less than a minute to do everything .it was about 10 minutes of aggravation in the beginning>


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DeltaBravo3.8
Unread post  Post subject: Re: Oxygen saturation  |  Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:23 pm
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Congrats on the weight loss. Unfortunately, you will probably need PAP therapy still. I'll give you an example before my therapy needs went far above normal or regular PAP therapy. I had weighed in at 300 pounds when I did one of my early sleep studies. AHI was around 75. I took 2016 off of CPAP merry go round to address being overweight, partly to try to lower AHI by weight loss. I had months of monitored diet in 2016, when I was on a path to get a bariatric sleeve surgery. This calls for several small incisions and the surgeon uses a camera inserted to see what he's doing. I had 75% of my stomach cut off and removed, the remainder sewed closed. The stomach is somewhat like a banana shape then. After a year of very small meals, I lost 100 lb. and I'm at about 225 now since my disabilities restrict exercise to minimum.

OK so the result on AHI after 100 lb is gone? The sleep study after that weight loss was about 38, so still severe. 100 pounds off meant roughly cutting AHI in half. But I still needed the ASV that I've had for 3 years (2017-2019), ASV because my apnea are mixed, both obstructive and central. ASV isn't the right therapy now for me, as COPD demands a totally different machine, the NIV ventilator in AVAPS it seems is about to get going. Disclosing so you understand the timeframe stated.

Anyway, most cases of weight loss are likely to be similar. Lowered AHI because of lower weight, but you'll still need PAP.

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remoo1
Unread post  Post subject: Re: Oxygen saturation  |  Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:19 am

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Thank you for the insight.


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