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CrookedRiver
Unread post  Post subject: Searching advice on mask liners  |  Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:02 pm
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I finally started lloking around for mask liners today.

At first I thought I could get them through the clinic where I got the CPAP ...... well, they never heard of mask liners before :roll: Next, I started to search online, only to find that there weren't too much to choose from (at least if the ones not interested in shipping to Scandinavia or offering it for a vast sum was omitted).

What do you think is the best liner for AirFit F20 (incl "worldwide shipping")? Should I go for reusable or disposable?


Some eBay choices here (Amazon more or less the same, I believe):

https://www.ebay.com/itm/CPAP-Comfort-C ... 3383153567

https://www.ebay.com/itm/RemZzzs-Full-F ... 0801701114
(does disposable ones have to cost $400/year - incl shipping?)


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LSAT
Unread post  Post subject: Re: Searching advice on mask liners  |  Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:48 pm

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Best liners, best service... http://www.padacheek.com


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diamaunt
Unread post  Post subject: Re: Searching advice on mask liners  |  Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 5:49 pm
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Absolutely, padacheek.com The owner is a cpap user, and a great lady, she started the business to help people, not make a quick buck (like those rip-off "disposable" ones. Her stuff costs more initially, but they're made to last... and last, and last.

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TheLankyLefty
Unread post  Post subject: Re: Searching advice on mask liners  |  Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:36 pm
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Padacheek is good. Since you're using the Airfit F20, why not just get an Airtouch cushion? You'd get the same benefit.

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CrookedRiver
Unread post  Post subject: Re: Searching advice on mask liners  |  Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:39 am
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TheLankyLefty wrote:
Since you're using the Airfit F20, why not just get an Airtouch cushion? You'd get the same benefit.


It comes at a price of 1000$ a year, am I right? There got to be a cheaper way...


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Pugsy
Unread post  Post subject: Re: Searching advice on mask liners  |  Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 3:45 pm
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CrookedRiver wrote:
TheLankyLefty wrote:
Since you're using the Airfit F20, why not just get an Airtouch cushion? You'd get the same benefit.


It comes at a price of 1000$ a year, am I right? There got to be a cheaper way...


What costs $1000 a year? The AirTouch cushion...even if you had to replace it once a month and paid full retail online with no insurance help that is only $54 a cushion X 12 months (but they will last longer than 30 days if you take extra care...some people are reporting 90 days before they need to replace the cushion) equals...$648 a year.

But check Amazon and EBay because often the cushions can be found at either of those sites for a lot less than the MSRP online.
$32 on Amazon and about the same on EBay.
The frame part will last forever with common sense care...and the headgear will depend on usage but people can normally get at least 6 months out of a headgear and some people even a lot longer.


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CrookedRiver
Unread post  Post subject: Re: Searching advice on mask liners  |  Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 3:40 am
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Pugsy wrote:
What costs $1000 a year? The AirTouch cushion...even if you had to replace it once a month and paid full retail online with no insurance help that is only $54 a cushion X 12 months (but they will last longer than 30 days if you take extra care...some people are reporting 90 days before they need to replace the cushion) equals...$648 a year.

But check Amazon and EBay because often the cushions can be found at either of those sites for a lot less than the MSRP online.


I live in Scandinavia. The 1000/year estimate was actually based upon a ResMed offer delivered here (close to 500 for a 6-pack). Even buying from Amazon brings it up to 800/year when shipping and our dear import duties are added.

I ordered one from eBay before reading your answer. Could probably have saved a little buying from Amazon, so thank you for suggesting that!


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Cpapian
Unread post  Post subject: Re: Searching advice on mask liners  |  Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:18 pm

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Why not make your own mask liners from an old tshirt. Just cut a shape matching your mask shape but about 1 1/2 in bigger than the mask. Then cut a similar shape 3 -4 inches inside. Old tshirts are free, no shipping, exchange or waiting.


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CrookedRiver
Unread post  Post subject: Re: Searching advice on mask liners  |  Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:27 pm
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Cpapian wrote:
Why not make your own mask liners from an old tshirt. Just cut a shape matching your mask shape but about 1 1/2 in bigger than the mask. Then cut a similar shape 3 -4 inches inside. Old tshirts are free, no shipping, exchange or waiting.


I actually started cutting up t-shirts before ordering the AirTouch :D Nothing cheaper; I fully agree. The drawback is that even with the self produced liners, i throw off the mask during the night and I find it difficult to aline them in the dark (doing my best not to wake up my better half)

I received the AirTouch two days ago. Probably a little early to make statements, but here I go:
* The first night was horrible, the 2nd night acceptable (a little above average)
* I find it difficult to avoid draft/leak here&there without tightening them "too much" (assuming they are not supposed to be tightened just as much as I did)
* I actually combined it with a "self produced liner" the 2nd night to compromize the leak/tightening (unaware of your post). It felt like one step in the wrong direction, even if it resulted in a better rest

One question: I find the cleaning process challenging (avoiding to moisten the cushion). Anyone who could share a good tip?


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